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F-22 Raptor PTS Update
Author: Frank Granelli   |  Added: 8/20/2007
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Sport Aviator recently flight tested Hangar 9’s new Raptor PTS Basic Trainer. The flight tests were extensive as was the construction review. Both subjects are covered in the On The Flight Line Article – “Hangar 9 F-22 Raptor PTS”. It might be a good idea to review that article before diving into this one. When you do, pay special attention to the flight videos and note the climb angles, rates of climb, descent rates on approach and takeoff runs.

Welcome back. As you could tell from the article, I liked the Raptor for its construction ease, flight performance and especially for its PTS (Progressive Trainer System) versatility. As shipped from the factory, the RTF Raptor PTS is an exceptional Advanced trainer and a pretty good Basic one with some minor reservations that were outlined in the first article.

I really liked the way the Raptor’s airframe performed. Its handling was gentle, visibility was great and the airplane simply had no vices. But I also noted that the Raptor’s flight performance seemed just a little off from that of a very good Basic Trainer. There was nothing wrong with the airplane but somehow, I had the impression that this airframe could do and be more. It was just an impression that the airframe’s full potential was not being reached but one that was based on 37 years mixing those RC transmitter sticks.

I flew the Raptor a lot more after the review was completed. That impression never went away. Actually, it just got stronger. After a dozen or so flights, I began to realize just what was happening. Strange as it may seem, the Raptor was just flying too slowly. Yes, the airplane was too slow for a Basic trainer. That sounds impossible, but allow me to explain.

The airplane’s level top speed was 45 mph. Its best climb speed was 38 mph and its “cruise” or training speed was 39 mph. These airspeeds were just too closely packed together. There was no reserve performance, read extra airspeed, available to cover for when a student applies just a little too much “up” elevator in a turn. The Mustang PTS Basic Trainer has a top speed of only 42 mph but its best climb speed was 30 mph providing a 12 mph reserve. The Raptor has only 6 mph in the bank.

Giving the Raptor excess elevator in a turn slowed it so much that the wings would simply roll to level, stopping the turn. There was never a hint of a stall and the airplane always remained in full control but the slowed aircraft would begin to descend and only applying full power would arrest the descent. This would sometimes happen even when flying at maximum airspeed.

Remember that the elevator controls airspeed. “Up” elevator will slow the aircraft, power levels remaining constant, if the airplane is flying upright. “Down” elevator adds airspeed in the same conditions. This relationship is detailed in the Pri-Fly article “Basic Landing Techniques”. Since the Raptor had a higher than usual descent rate during landing approaches, some students might add “up” elevator, instead of adding engine power which controls descent rates, slowing the aircraft and increasing its descent rate.

But I could tell that the airplane didn’t want to be flying like this. The airframe was great but it kept asking for a little more speed. Now before you call somebody to cart me away for thinking that the Raptor was actually talking to me, let me explain. Dropping the Raptor’s nose in cruise power increased the airspeed from 39 mph to 47 mph.

During the times when the Raptor was in this descent mode, the airplane came alive. The controls, always responsive, became crisp. Pulling excess elevator resulted in only a tighter turn and the wings did not self-level. The airplane showed no tendency to descend in the turns until that extra 8 mph was bled away. Coming out of the power descent, the Raptor’s nose stayed level instead of having its usual ~5 degrees of positive attack angle until the extra airspeed went away.

This airplane was screaming for a chance to show just how really great it could be. But it had, by design, a lot of airframe drag and just could not make it on its own as equipped. Raising the flaps didn’t help much as the top speed did not change while the cruise speed moved one mph closer to it at 40 mph. 

 

 

The Final Solution

The Raptor PTS is factory equipped with the ever-amazing Evolution 45 glow engine. This is the same engine as the Evolution 46 powerhouse but is equipped with mixture limiters to protect it from being operated with over-lean (too much air and not enough fuel) mixture settings which could damage it.

The propeller is the 3-blade propeller made famous on the Alpha 40 Trainer. This very successful propeller is standard on the Alpha 40 Basic Trainer, the Arrow Advanced trainer and on the P-51 Mustang PTS. The 3-blade’s pitch, the amount it moves forward during one revolution is 4.3 inches. The Evolution 45 will turn this propeller at a maximum 11,200 rpm.

The 3-blade propeller is used for several reasons. First is the extra ground clearance provided by its smaller diameter. Second, the lower pitch reduces airspeeds, providing the student pilot with extra thinking time. The lower pitch also keeps the airplane from accelerating in a descending turn should the student pilot allow the nose to drop too far in the turn.

Model 3-blade propellers, unlike their full-size counterparts, are actually less efficient than are 2-blade model propellers. In short, our propellers rotate so much faster, 11,000 vs. 3,000 rpm and their pitch is so small, 5 inches vs. 5 feet, that the following blade is always operating in the wake turbulence of the blade preceding it. This means that not all the engine’s power is converted to thrust. The result is an airplane that responds less to sudden throttle changes, flies more slowly and is easier to “power plan” for the student pilot.

The 3-blade propeller is also a very effective airbrake during approaches. It helps steady the airspeed and makes controlling descent rates easier. Employed on “clean” (little airframe drag) airplanes like the Alpha 40, the Alpha 60 (a larger 3-blade is used here), the Arrow and even on the Mustang PTS, the 3-blade propeller does exactly what it is supposed to do and does it well. Hangar 9 made a great choice equipping their trainer aircraft with this innovation (nobody else had done it before them.)

But on the Raptor, an airplane with large “jet” intakes, twin rudders, an under-cambered airfoil, wing extensions and flaps, there is so much airframe drag that the 3-blade propeller’s many advantages are not needed. In fact, the airplane needs more of its engine power and a more efficient propeller to reach a better operating airspeed.

 

Photo 1             Photo 2

But this is still a trainer and too much airspeed is far worse than too little. Maybe a more efficient propeller will allow the airplane to gain a few mph without making any major performance changes. I tested several propellers and the best one appears to be the APC 11 x 5 in. 2-bladed sport propeller. This propeller is shown in the photos above.

 

Photo 3

The spinner shown is available in hobby shops but Horizon Hobby also offers a 2-blade spinner for the Raptor that includes the propeller adaptor. It is a direct replacement for the RTF’s 3-bladed spinner. The product number is HAN3836 and it retails for only six dollars. It looks better than the one pictured and is a perfect color match.

The Evolution 45 turns the APC 11 x 5 in. propeller at a maximum 13,000 rpm. The mixture limiters do not need to be adjusted. Their range extends to this higher rpm level. The rpm for flight tests was set at 12,600 useable. It is always a good idea to fly with the mixture set about 3-400 rpm less than peak rpm. Once airborne, the engine rotates faster than it does on the ground and that requires a little more fuel in the mix to stay safe. Vertical climbs also tend to slightly, very slightly, lean the fuel mixture and the slightly rich takeoff setting compensates for this.

So what happened? Here is the flight data:

Flight Data Results

                                                            3-Blade w flaps                     **2-Blade w Flaps

*Take Off Speed:                                 29 mph                                      28 mph

Climb Out:                                           350 fpm @ 34 mph                      1,000fpm @ 39 mph

Best Training Speed:                           39 mph                                       46 mph

Top Speed:                                          45 mph                                       56 mph

Sustained Climb Rate:                         600fpm @ 38 MPH                      1,22FPM @ 43 MPH

Max. Dive Speed:                                60 mph                                       66 mph

Gliding Descent Rate:   -ft./min.            500 fpm @ 38 mph                      400 fpm @ 40 mph

400’ Glide Distance:                             2,700 ft.                                      3,600 ft.

Level Stall Speed:                               <6 mph                                       < 6 mph

60-deg. Bank Stall Speed:                   10 mph                                       10 mph

Landing App. Speed:                           38 mph                                       41 mph      

Touch Down Speed:                             30 mph                                      32 mph

Approach Descent Rate:                       -200 fpm                                    -200 fpm

*All results are an average of 3 flight tests   ** APC 11 x 5 inch propeller

Flight Data Results

                                                            3-Blade w/o flaps                    **2-Blade w/o Flaps

*Take Off Speed:                                30 mph                                       3 mph

Climb Out Speed:                                500 fpm @ 37 mph                       1,400 fpm @ 3941 mph

Best Training Speed:                           40 mph                                        50 mph

Top Speed:                                          45 mph                                        61 mph

Sustained Climb Rate:  . 


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Here's what others said about this article:

  John posted on 5/11/2008 3:58:16 PM
  Flew my Raptor for rhw first time yesterday, my first RC flight as well. It seemed a little slow and didn't climb well, and my instructor pilots said that I might need to change the prop. So, this is just what I was looking for!

Already ordered the new prop/spinner and servos for the flaps.

Thanks a lot,

John

  The Editor's Response: Posted on 1/6/2009 5:18:58 PM
I think you will find the Raptor flies much better on the 11 x 5 in APC Frank G.

  Dana Zeiner posted on 7/22/2008 1:15:06 PM
  I just got mine and truthfully I was afraid to fly it at my level of experience...I feel better about it now. It STILL stays in the box until a few more SIM hours though!!

  The Editor's Response: Posted on 7/29/2008 11:41:16 AM
The aireplane is very gentle but have an instructor for the first flights. Hangar 9 is now shipping itwith the 2-bladed propeller we suggested, not the original 3-balded one. Consider doing the same. Best of luck, Frank

  James Barrow posted on 7/28/2008 9:54:39 AM
  nothing

  The Editor's Response: Posted on 7/29/2008 11:34:28 AM
Sorry for the delay. We are working on it and will have the update available very soon. Regqards, Frank

  Eric D Striepeke posted on 10/27/2008 11:30:36 PM
  I love this plane it looks so good in the air and I have only been flying for five months now. I am runing a APC 10x6 prop and it rips threw the sky just right for me. I still have the wing foils things on, but they will come off soon. All the guys with the realy fast planes all want to fly mine and love it too. I am a proud owner of a hanger 9 raptor 22 maybe os motor in it some day. Thanks for your write up good work. Eric from sunny so cal.

  The Editor's Response: Posted on 1/6/2009 3:59:21 PM

  Peter C. posted on 10/28/2008 2:56:08 PM
  I have been flying this bird for six months and it still gives me a thrill every time I fly it. I am an intermediate pilot and I always fly off a smooth short grass field (lawn).
The first flight was by the book (Hangar 9) with the flaps down, wing droops on and stock 10" 3 blade. I did not like the way it flew. Way to slow and rocking side to side. So I made some changes.
I agree the 11x5 APC or EVO prop is the way to go. It gives alot more thrust/pull with the stock 'A' engine. It keeps the nose up even in the turns. I also removed the droops and put the flaps up. The Raptor flew much better, faster and stronger. Then I tried one more trick that I use when I launch my Parkzone Stryker C brushless and that is to put 4 or 5 clicks of up elevator on TX. Then remove them once in flight. On the Raptor this meant to put the aileons up by 10 - 15 degrees using the flap switch on my Spektrum radio. Some guys call this move 'spoilerons'. This works like a dream on take-off. Once over the tree tops just flip the switch off to return the ailerons to normal position. This works because the Raptor has some flying/design charactoristics of a delta wing plane. Try it some time and I thing you will really like it. Peter C.

  The Editor's Response: Posted on 1/6/2009 4:04:47 PM
I have never tried reflexing the ailerons like that, it should work well especially as you have already done it. Regards, Frank G.

  Eric D Striepeke posted on 10/29/2008 12:06:52 AM
  I love this plane. I have been flying for five months now. I started with the hobbyzone super cub with a trainer. Then went to the t-28 still with the trainer. Got the raptor of ebay for a killer price my trainer flew it and let me fly it at five mistakes high but that was it. So I got a super stick from hanger 9 and flew that for a couple of weeks and my trainer said Eric you are ready to be on your own. I have flow the raptor four times one with the stock prop and the other thre with a APC 10X6 still have the wing thigs on there. But it is a fast plane and looks BEAUTIFUL IN THE AIR. All the guys with there top dollar planes want to fly her. So I can't wait to take off the wing thigs and let her realy rip up the sky. Thanks for the info and happy flying. Eric from sunny and hot oct 28 in so cal. It was 96 degrees today today

  The Editor's Response: Posted on 1/5/2009 5:16:04 PM
It has proven to be a great airplane. It is much faster with the droop tips removed but also requires more careful handling. Enjoy it, - Frank G.

  D. Roebke (AMA 55508) posted on 12/13/2008 12:18:03 AM
  The article hinted at a airframe update from Hanger 9 concerning the firewall strength. It would be nice to have a link to that update as I had no idea there was one.

  The Editor's Response: Posted on 1/5/2009 3:49:45 PM
Information on the firewall reinforcement kit should be available at www.horizonhobby.com. If not, contact Horizon Customer Support at: productsupport@horizonhobby.com Regards, Frank G.

  timmy posted on 1/1/2009 11:16:36 PM
  holy crap that is an absolute amazing plane

  The Editor's Response: Posted on 1/5/2009 2:49:27 PM
I like it a lot - Frank G

  Bob C. posted on 2/1/2009 10:39:43 PM
  I've taken out the Evolution engine and mount and installed an OS .61 FX with a 12X6 prop. I also lengthened the nose wheel mount for more ground clearance. Surprisingly, the C.G. moved backward (lighter mount) so I had to move the battery into the middle hatch area. It flies like a rocket on rails. I'm still using the "low rate" throws on the control surfaces but it moves with considerable authority now. The OS .61 makes this a real sport plane and is not too big for the airframe. The only issue I have now is the fuel tank is a bit small.

  The Editor's Response: Posted on 4/27/2009 5:14:23 PM
This is a great airframe but needed more power. The APC 11 x 5 in. solved this problem. While the 60 is nice, engine offerings have moved on some. For those considering upping the power level, after trying the APC prop, consider the new Evolution .52 which fits in without modifications. - Frank


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